Hey everyone, are any of you AI experts? Can you tell if a photo was generated by AI or taken with a camera? There are a lot of people who don’t realize that this technique, while fascinating, isn’t really photography. Let’s call it graphics, prompt engineering, or computer science—but I don’t think mastering this technique has much to do with being a skilled photographer. That said, the results can be truly impressive at times, and the temptation to get clever can lead people astray...
PS: This message isn’t directed at anyone here!!!Hey everyone, are any of you AI experts? Can you tell if a photo was generated by AI or taken with a camera? There are a lot of people who don’t realize that this technique, while fascinating, isn’t really photography. Let’s call it graphics, prompt engineering, or computer science—but I don’t think mastering this technique has much to do with being a skilled photographer. That said, the results can be truly impressive at times, and the temptation to get clever can lead people astray...
PS: This message isn’t directed at anyone here!!!Ciao ragazzi, are any of you experts in a.i.? can you distinguish whether a photo is AI or taken with a camera? there are many people around who don't know that this technique, although very interesting, has nothing to do with photography. Let's call it graphics, prompt engineering, computer science but it doesn't seem to me that becoming good at this technique has anything to do with being a good photographer. However, the results are truly remarkable at times and the temptation to be clever makes a man a thief.......
PS: this message is not referred about anyone here!!!
I don’t agree. Photography is just one technique within the fine arts, and AI-generated images are another. What truly matters is the concept behind the image and how that concept is brought to life visually. The technique itself is completely irrelevant.I don’t agree. Photography is just one technique within the fine arts, and AI-generated images are another. What truly matters is the concept behind the image and how that concept is brought to life visually. The technique itself is completely irrelevant.I don't agree. Photography is just one technique of fine arts, AI-generated pictures are another. But it is just the idea of a picture that counts, and how this idea is visualized. The technique itsself doesn't matter at all.
You might be right, but what we actually think doesn’t matter much. What’s important is that anyone using a technique openly admits it, without any issues and without pretending that something automatic is the result of their skill. Otherwise, they’re just playing dirty.
You might be right, but what we actually think doesn’t matter much. What’s important is that anyone using a technique openly admits it, without any issues and without pretending that something automatic is the result of their skill. Otherwise, they’re just playing dirty.
you may be right, but what we actually think matters little. What is important is that whoever uses a technique declares it without problems and without pretending that something automatic is the result of his skill. Otherwise he is simply playing dirty.
...most of those slightly hairy primates are playing dirty 
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I don’t agree with this statement. If AI tools are meant to generate images based on prompts that I actually need for a specific purpose, it’s crucial to also specify the composition of the image and the photographic techniques to be used. Yes, these qualities are what make a good photographer as well.I don’t agree with this statement. If AI tools are meant to generate images based on prompts that I actually need for a specific purpose, it’s crucial to also specify the composition of the image and the photographic techniques to be used. Yes, these qualities are what make a good photographer as well.I would not agree with this statement. If AI tools are supposed to generate images through prompting that I actually need for a specific application, then it is extremely important to also describe the composition of the image and the photographic technique to be used. Yes, and these qualities also make a good photographer.
There’s a lot to unpack here. I can tell you from my experience as a beginner that when you try AI, if you don’t specify anything about the composition, the machine automatically generates it based on its training. However, I’m not an expert on this topic. What I have noticed (though not here) is that on social media, AI-generated images are often blatantly presented as original photos.There’s a lot to unpack here. I can tell you from my experience as a beginner that when you try AI, if you don’t specify anything about the composition, the machine automatically generates it based on its training. However, I’m not an expert on this topic. What I have noticed (though not here) is that on social media, AI-generated images are often blatantly presented as original photos.There's a lot to discuss about this. I can tell you that as a beginner I tried the AI and I assure you that if you do not specify anything about the composition it is automatically thought of by the machine which is trained for this. But I don't have the skills to talk about this. What I've noticed (not here) is that on social media AI photos are blatantly passed off as their own photos.
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Here in the club, there’s a category called "DigiArt." Maybe this category could also be used to discuss AI-generated images and the prompts behind them. Alternatively, Toni could create a dedicated subcategory just for AI. I agree with you—either way, the authorship should credit both the person who created the prompt and the AI.Here in the club, there’s a category called "DigiArt." Maybe this category could also be used to discuss AI-generated images and the prompts behind them. Alternatively, Toni could create a dedicated subcategory just for AI. I agree with you—either way, the authorship should credit both the person who created the prompt and the AI.Here in the club, there is the category "DigiArt." Perhaps this category could also be used to discuss images generated by AI and to talk about the respective prompt terms. Alternatively, Toni could open a subcategory specifically for AI. I agree with you. In any case, the authorship should include both the prompter and AI.
Yes, it would be helpful to specify the engine used and share the prompt. One thing I didn’t quite get is the order in which you should give the prompt—sometimes many of the details I include get ignored :D. I’m getting off-topic, but this is really fascinating. As you might have guessed, I’m not against AI at all; I just see it as something different from the photos I take myself.Yes, it would be helpful to specify the engine used and share the prompt. One thing I didn’t quite get is the order in which you should give the prompt—sometimes many of the details I include get ignored :D. I’m getting off-topic, but this is really fascinating. As you might have guessed, I’m not against AI at all; I just see it as something different from the photos I take myself.yes it would be nice to indicate the engine used and share the prompt. one thing for example that I didn't understand is the sequence to give to the prompt, sometimes many characteristics that I write are ignored :D. I'm going offtopic but this is very interesting. As you may have understood, I actually have nothing against AI, I just think it's something different compared to the photos I take with my hands.
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An AI-generated image isn’t a real photograph in the traditional sense of capturing light.
The sequence and specific prompts used often come as a surprise. I’ve also had results where certain prompts were completely ignored. As for the order, I suspect that the words placed first carry more weight.An AI-generated image isn’t a real photograph in the traditional sense of capturing light.
The sequence and specific prompts used often come as a surprise. I’ve also had results where certain prompts were completely ignored. As for the order, I suspect that the words placed first carry more weight.A AI-generated image is actually not a real photograph in the sense of light painting.
The order and specific prompts used are often a surprise. I've also had results where some prompts were completely ignored. Regarding the order, I suspect that the words that come first are given greater weight.
The sequence and specific prompts used often come as a surprise. I’ve also had results where certain prompts were completely ignored. As for the order, I suspect that the words placed first carry more weight.An AI-generated image isn’t a real photograph in the traditional sense of capturing light.
The sequence and specific prompts used often come as a surprise. I’ve also had results where certain prompts were completely ignored. As for the order, I suspect that the words placed first carry more weight.A AI-generated image is actually not a real photograph in the sense of light painting.
The order and specific prompts used are often a surprise. I've also had results where some prompts were completely ignored. Regarding the order, I suspect that the words that come first are given greater weight.
Yes, I also believe that the order matters, and there are parameters that influence how much a part of the prompt is taken into account. But it’s really challenging because, as a user, it’s a black box... yet it’s incredibly fascinating. :D I’d love to learn more. There are definitely “legitimate” uses when the image is clearly imaginary. To give a silly example: I’ll never be able to photograph an elephant balancing on a wire. In that sense, I think it would be fun to explore fantasies that can’t be realized in real life.Yes, I also believe that the order matters, and there are parameters that influence how much a part of the prompt is taken into account. But it’s really challenging because, as a user, it’s a black box... yet it’s incredibly fascinating. :D I’d love to learn more. There are definitely “legitimate” uses when the image is clearly imaginary. To give a silly example: I’ll never be able to photograph an elephant balancing on a wire. In that sense, I think it would be fun to explore fantasies that can’t be realized in real life.yes, I also think that the order counts, then there are parameters to make consider more or less a part of the prompt. But it's very difficult because as a user it's a closed box.... but it's terribly interesting. :D, I would really like to learn, there are 'legitimate' uses when the photo is clearly imaginary, I'll give a stupid example: I will never be able to photograph an elephant balancing on a wire. In this sense I think I would have fun with the fantasy that cannot be vented in reality.
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Creating images with AI assistance is definitely fascinating — I just don’t buy into all the hype. I intentionally use the word “image” instead of “photo” because there’s a difference. You can create an image in many ways, like painting, and there are countless creative methods to bring your vision to life. To me, the real issue arises when someone tries to pass off a photorealistic image as an actual photograph. Usually, these images are fairly easy to spot, but that’s likely to get harder as technology advances. Photography itself covers a broad range of styles, from more artistic shots to documentary-style work. Maybe I’m a bit old-fashioned, but I believe the perspective, message, story, and especially the emotions conveyed to the viewer are what truly matter — and that’s not necessarily about technical skill. AI-generated images usually don’t achieve that for me, at least not yet.
That said, it’s important to stay open to new things, and experimenting can be a lot of fun. Knowing how to create AI images is definitely a useful skill, especially given the possibilities. In my view, as with many things in life, it all comes down to how you approach it.Creating images with AI assistance is definitely fascinating — I just don’t buy into all the hype. I intentionally use the word “image” instead of “photo” because there’s a difference. You can create an image in many ways, like painting, and there are countless creative methods to bring your vision to life. To me, the real issue arises when someone tries to pass off a photorealistic image as an actual photograph. Usually, these images are fairly easy to spot, but that’s likely to get harder as technology advances. Photography itself covers a broad range of styles, from more artistic shots to documentary-style work. Maybe I’m a bit old-fashioned, but I believe the perspective, message, story, and especially the emotions conveyed to the viewer are what truly matter — and that’s not necessarily about technical skill. AI-generated images usually don’t achieve that for me, at least not yet.
That said, it’s important to stay open to new things, and experimenting can be a lot of fun. Knowing how to create AI images is definitely a useful skill, especially given the possibilities. In my view, as with many things in life, it all comes down to how you approach it.Generating images with AI support is of course an interesting thing - I just don't like the hype so much. I deliberately use the word image and not photo, because there is a difference. You can also create a picture in other ways, e.g. by painting, and there are many creative ways to design your picture imaginatively. In my opinion, we only have a problem when someone passes off a photorealistic image as real. Such images are usually quite easy to recognize, but this is likely to become increasingly difficult in the future. There are also different directions in photography, e.g. more artistic photos or with a documentary character. Perhaps I have a somewhat conservative point of view, because I think the point of view, the message, the story and especially the emotions should be conveyed to the viewer - this is not necessarily a technical matter. This usually doesn't work with AI-generated images - at least not for me.
Of course, you shouldn't close yourself off to new things and experimenting is fun. Knowing how to create AI images can't hurt, especially with the possibilities. in my opinion, as is often the case in life, it depends on how you go about it.
That said, it’s important to stay open to new things, and experimenting can be a lot of fun. Knowing how to create AI images is definitely a useful skill, especially given the possibilities. In my view, as with many things in life, it all comes down to how you approach it.Creating images with AI assistance is definitely fascinating — I just don’t buy into all the hype. I intentionally use the word “image” instead of “photo” because there’s a difference. You can create an image in many ways, like painting, and there are countless creative methods to bring your vision to life. To me, the real issue arises when someone tries to pass off a photorealistic image as an actual photograph. Usually, these images are fairly easy to spot, but that’s likely to get harder as technology advances. Photography itself covers a broad range of styles, from more artistic shots to documentary-style work. Maybe I’m a bit old-fashioned, but I believe the perspective, message, story, and especially the emotions conveyed to the viewer are what truly matter — and that’s not necessarily about technical skill. AI-generated images usually don’t achieve that for me, at least not yet.
That said, it’s important to stay open to new things, and experimenting can be a lot of fun. Knowing how to create AI images is definitely a useful skill, especially given the possibilities. In my view, as with many things in life, it all comes down to how you approach it.Generating images with AI support is of course an interesting thing - I just don't like the hype so much. I deliberately use the word image and not photo, because there is a difference. You can also create a picture in other ways, e.g. by painting, and there are many creative ways to design your picture imaginatively. In my opinion, we only have a problem when someone passes off a photorealistic image as real. Such images are usually quite easy to recognize, but this is likely to become increasingly difficult in the future. There are also different directions in photography, e.g. more artistic photos or with a documentary character. Perhaps I have a somewhat conservative point of view, because I think the point of view, the message, the story and especially the emotions should be conveyed to the viewer - this is not necessarily a technical matter. This usually doesn't work with AI-generated images - at least not for me.
Of course, you shouldn't close yourself off to new things and experimenting is fun. Knowing how to create AI images can't hurt, especially with the possibilities. in my opinion, as is often the case in life, it depends on how you go about it.
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