Hello fellow photography enthusiasts, I've noticed for a while now that women are usually in the minority in photography forums. Why do you think that is?
Are men simply better photographers, or do they perhaps have a bit more freedom to pursue their hobby than we women do? ;-) Best, RiaHello fellow photography enthusiasts, I've noticed for a while now that women are usually in the minority in photography forums. Why do you think that is?
Are men simply better photographers, or do they perhaps have a bit more freedom to pursue their hobby than we women do? ;-) Best, RiaHallo liebe Fotofreunde, was mir schon länger aufgefallen ist, wir Frauen sind in den Fotoforen eigentlich immer in der Unterzahl. Woran liegt das?
Sind die Männer die besseren Fotografen oder haben sie etwas mehr Freiraum für ihr Hobby als wir Frauen? ;-) Gruß Ria
Ria W.
Hobbyfotograf
Ria W.
:-D 
Hobbyfotograf
Haha Ria, you can’t be serious, right?
Who’s going to make us fried potatoes with fish when we come home stressed from the photo tour, and who’s going to give us new clothes because we’ve been lying in the dirt
How’s that supposed to work? *chuckles* Cheers, Anser
Haha Ria, you can’t be serious, right?
Who’s going to make us fried potatoes with fish when we come home stressed from the photo tour, and who’s going to give us new clothes because we’ve been lying in the dirt
How’s that supposed to work? *chuckles* Cheers, AnserKicher Ria, das ist jetzt nicht dein Ernst oder ?.
Wer macht macht uns Bratkartoffel mit Fisch, wenn wir gestresst von der Knipstour nach Hause kommen, und wer gibt uns neue Klamotten weil wir in Dreck gelegen haben.
Wie soll das bitte gehen ?, schmunzel.
Gruß Anser
Who’s going to make us fried potatoes with fish when we come home stressed from the photo tour, and who’s going to give us new clothes because we’ve been lying in the dirt
How’s that supposed to work? *chuckles* Cheers, Anser
Haha Ria, you can’t be serious, right?Who’s going to make us fried potatoes with fish when we come home stressed from the photo tour, and who’s going to give us new clothes because we’ve been lying in the dirt
How’s that supposed to work? *chuckles* Cheers, Anser
Kicher Ria, das ist jetzt nicht dein Ernst oder ?.Wer macht macht uns Bratkartoffel mit Fisch, wenn wir gestresst von der Knipstour nach Hause kommen, und wer gibt uns neue Klamotten weil wir in Dreck gelegen haben
.Wie soll das bitte gehen ?, schmunzel.
Gruß Anser
Babs Bathe
I don’t believe men are better photographers 
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I could imagine that there are fewer women who cover a wide range of photography genres. Most of the women I know tend to focus mainly on photographing their kids and pets. Every now and then, they might snap a quick shot with their smartphone. Architecture, technology, or exploring old industrial sites just aren’t as popular among most women, and I think that’s why.
I don’t believe men are better photographers.
I could imagine that there are fewer women who cover a wide range of photography genres. Most of the women I know tend to focus mainly on photographing their kids and pets. Every now and then, they might snap a quick shot with their smartphone. Architecture, technology, or exploring old industrial sites just aren’t as popular among most women, and I think that’s why.
Ich glaube nicht,das Männer die Besseren Fotografen sind .
Ich könnte mir vorstellen das es weniger Frauen gibt,die ein breit gefächertes Fotogebiet bekleiden , die meisten Frauen ,die ich so in meinem Umfeld habe,fotografieren zum größten Teil, ihre Kids und Haustiere,hier und da vielleicht mal ein Schnappi mit dem Smartphone , Architektur & Technik , oder auf alten Zechen rumkrauchen liegt den meisten Frauen nicht so ,ich denke das es daran liegt .
.I could imagine that there are fewer women who cover a wide range of photography genres. Most of the women I know tend to focus mainly on photographing their kids and pets. Every now and then, they might snap a quick shot with their smartphone. Architecture, technology, or exploring old industrial sites just aren’t as popular among most women, and I think that’s why.
I don’t believe men are better photographers
.I could imagine that there are fewer women who cover a wide range of photography genres. Most of the women I know tend to focus mainly on photographing their kids and pets. Every now and then, they might snap a quick shot with their smartphone. Architecture, technology, or exploring old industrial sites just aren’t as popular among most women, and I think that’s why.
Ich glaube nicht,das Männer die Besseren Fotografen sind
.Ich könnte mir vorstellen das es weniger Frauen gibt,die ein breit gefächertes Fotogebiet bekleiden , die meisten Frauen ,die ich so in meinem Umfeld habe,fotografieren zum größten Teil, ihre Kids und Haustiere,hier und da vielleicht mal ein Schnappi mit dem Smartphone , Architektur & Technik , oder auf alten Zechen rumkrauchen liegt den meisten Frauen nicht so ,ich denke das es daran liegt .
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I'm part of a photography club here in Dresden that has been around for over 15 years now.
Out of our active members, we have 6 men and 4 women, which is a pretty good ratio for female participation.
As for who's better, I'll put it this way: when it comes to using phones, the women definitely have the edge. The men still have a pretty mixed relationship with them.
But when it comes to choosing subjects to photograph, there's no difference at all.I'm part of a photography club here in Dresden that has been around for over 15 years now.
Out of our active members, we have 6 men and 4 women, which is a pretty good ratio for female participation.
As for who's better, I'll put it this way: when it comes to using phones, the women definitely have the edge. The men still have a pretty mixed relationship with them.
But when it comes to choosing subjects to photograph, there's no difference at all.Ich bin in einem Fotoclub hier in Dresden, denn es mittlerweile schon über 15 Jahre gibt.
Also wir sind von unseren Aktiven 6 Männer und 4 Frauen, ist doch eine gute (Frauen) Quote.
Wer ist nun besser, ich sags mal so: am Handy eindeutig die Damen. Die Herren haben da ein sehr gespaltenes Verhältnis (noch) .
Was aber die Motivauswahl angeht, gibt es keinen Unterschied.
Out of our active members, we have 6 men and 4 women, which is a pretty good ratio for female participation.
As for who's better, I'll put it this way: when it comes to using phones, the women definitely have the edge. The men still have a pretty mixed relationship with them.
But when it comes to choosing subjects to photograph, there's no difference at all.I'm part of a photography club here in Dresden that has been around for over 15 years now.
Out of our active members, we have 6 men and 4 women, which is a pretty good ratio for female participation.
As for who's better, I'll put it this way: when it comes to using phones, the women definitely have the edge. The men still have a pretty mixed relationship with them.
But when it comes to choosing subjects to photograph, there's no difference at all.Ich bin in einem Fotoclub hier in Dresden, denn es mittlerweile schon über 15 Jahre gibt.
Also wir sind von unseren Aktiven 6 Männer und 4 Frauen, ist doch eine gute (Frauen) Quote.
Wer ist nun besser, ich sags mal so: am Handy eindeutig die Damen. Die Herren haben da ein sehr gespaltenes Verhältnis (noch) .
Was aber die Motivauswahl angeht, gibt es keinen Unterschied.
Handyknipser
@Ria W.
I don't think you can say that for sure. The fact is, there are significantly more professional male chefs than female chefs, at least when it comes to Michelin-starred chefs.
Maybe there are also more men who are tech-savvy.
You definitely can't tell that just from the photo. At least, I can't.@Ria W.
I don't think you can say that for sure. The fact is, there are significantly more professional male chefs than female chefs, at least when it comes to Michelin-starred chefs.
Maybe there are also more men who are tech-savvy.
You definitely can't tell that just from the photo. At least, I can't.@Ria W.
Ich glaube das kann man nicht sagen. Tatsache ist allerdings das es wesentlich mehr Berufsköche als Berufsköchinnen gibt. Zumindest was die Sterneköche anbelangt.
Vielleicht gibt es auch mehr Männer die Technik Affin sind.
Am Foto selbst kann man das sicher nicht erkennen. Zumindest ich nicht.
I don't think you can say that for sure. The fact is, there are significantly more professional male chefs than female chefs, at least when it comes to Michelin-starred chefs.
Maybe there are also more men who are tech-savvy.
You definitely can't tell that just from the photo. At least, I can't.@Ria W.
I don't think you can say that for sure. The fact is, there are significantly more professional male chefs than female chefs, at least when it comes to Michelin-starred chefs.
Maybe there are also more men who are tech-savvy.
You definitely can't tell that just from the photo. At least, I can't.@Ria W.
Ich glaube das kann man nicht sagen. Tatsache ist allerdings das es wesentlich mehr Berufsköche als Berufsköchinnen gibt. Zumindest was die Sterneköche anbelangt.
Vielleicht gibt es auch mehr Männer die Technik Affin sind.
Am Foto selbst kann man das sicher nicht erkennen. Zumindest ich nicht.
08 16
@Ria W.
Interesting question – could it be more about our perception?
"Kwerfeldein" tackled this topic two years ago and conducted various surveys.
The report and statistics on this subject can be found at the following LINK:
I have to admit – I was surprised.
https://kwerfeldein.de/2018/10/02/frauen-fotografie/ Best regards.@Ria W.
Interesting question – could it be more about our perception?
"Kwerfeldein" tackled this topic two years ago and conducted various surveys.
The report and statistics on this subject can be found at the following LINK:
I have to admit – I was surprised.
https://kwerfeldein.de/2018/10/02/frauen-fotografie/ Best regards.@Ria W.
Interessante Frage - liegt es doch mehr an unserer Wahrnehmung ?
"Kwerfeldein" hat vor zwei Jahren diese Frage auch schon mal aufgeworfen, dazu verschiedene Erhebungen gemacht.
Der Bericht und die Statistik zu dem Thema ist in dem u.g. LINK nachzulesen:
Ich muss gestehen - ich war überrascht.
https://kwerfeldein.de/2018/10/02/frauen-fotografie/ VG.
Interesting question – could it be more about our perception?
"Kwerfeldein" tackled this topic two years ago and conducted various surveys.
The report and statistics on this subject can be found at the following LINK:
I have to admit – I was surprised.
https://kwerfeldein.de/2018/10/02/frauen-fotografie/ Best regards.@Ria W.
Interesting question – could it be more about our perception?
"Kwerfeldein" tackled this topic two years ago and conducted various surveys.
The report and statistics on this subject can be found at the following LINK:
I have to admit – I was surprised.
https://kwerfeldein.de/2018/10/02/frauen-fotografie/ Best regards.@Ria W.
Interessante Frage - liegt es doch mehr an unserer Wahrnehmung ?
"Kwerfeldein" hat vor zwei Jahren diese Frage auch schon mal aufgeworfen, dazu verschiedene Erhebungen gemacht.
Der Bericht und die Statistik zu dem Thema ist in dem u.g. LINK nachzulesen:
Ich muss gestehen - ich war überrascht.
https://kwerfeldein.de/2018/10/02/frauen-fotografie/ VG.
08 16
I'll add some information on this topic:
Recently, 12 members of DVF-Westfalen were honored by the FIAP (International Federation of Photographic Art) for outstanding achievements. Of these, 6 were male and 6 were female.
This was not about maintaining gender balance, but rather recognizing individual accomplishments in various competitions.I'll add some information on this topic:
Recently, 12 members of DVF-Westfalen were honored by the FIAP (International Federation of Photographic Art) for outstanding achievements. Of these, 6 were male and 6 were female.
This was not about maintaining gender balance, but rather recognizing individual accomplishments in various competitions.Ich ergänze mal zu dem Thema:
Wegen besonders guter Leistungen wurden jüngst vom FIAP "International Federation of Photographic Art"
bei DVF-Westfalen 12 Mitglieder ausgezeichnet. Davon waren 6x männlich, 6x weiblich.
Dabei ging es nicht um eine geschlechtliche Gleichverteilung einzuhalten, sondern aufgrund ereichter Leistungen bei Einzelwettbewerben.
Recently, 12 members of DVF-Westfalen were honored by the FIAP (International Federation of Photographic Art) for outstanding achievements. Of these, 6 were male and 6 were female.
This was not about maintaining gender balance, but rather recognizing individual accomplishments in various competitions.I'll add some information on this topic:
Recently, 12 members of DVF-Westfalen were honored by the FIAP (International Federation of Photographic Art) for outstanding achievements. Of these, 6 were male and 6 were female.
This was not about maintaining gender balance, but rather recognizing individual accomplishments in various competitions.Ich ergänze mal zu dem Thema:
Wegen besonders guter Leistungen wurden jüngst vom FIAP "International Federation of Photographic Art"
bei DVF-Westfalen 12 Mitglieder ausgezeichnet. Davon waren 6x männlich, 6x weiblich.
Dabei ging es nicht um eine geschlechtliche Gleichverteilung einzuhalten, sondern aufgrund ereichter Leistungen bei Einzelwettbewerben.
Ria W.
@ 08 16 I just read the article you linked. What I found most interesting was actually the discussion in the comments below it. I originally asked this question because I’ve noticed that women are generally underrepresented in photography—whether in photo clubs or forums like this one. The number of men is always significantly higher. That’s why I posed that somewhat provocative question back then.@ 08 16 I just read the article you linked. What I found most interesting was actually the discussion in the comments below it. I originally asked this question because I’ve noticed that women are generally underrepresented in photography—whether in photo clubs or forums like this one. The number of men is always significantly higher. That’s why I posed that somewhat provocative question back then.@ 08 16 Ich habe gerade mal den Artikel gelesen, den Du verlinkt hast. Am interessantesten fand ich fast die Diskussion unter dem Artikel. Ich hatte eigentlich diese Frage mal gestellt, weil mir grundsätzlich auffällt, das Frauen in der Fotografie weniger vertreten sind. Sei es in Fotoclubs oder wie hier in Foren. Der Männeranteil ist doch immer wesentlich höher. Deshalb auch damals die etwas provokante Frage von mir.
Although this topic is more than two years old, it’s still very relevant. As a "newbie" here, I’ve been trying to read through all the sections for days and just ended up here. From my experience with many seminars and workshops, there are often MORE women than men participating, and they also take outstanding photos. When someone here mentions having time constraints, maybe us men should really take a moment to reflect on that! My wife also takes photos and often captures more appealing shots than I do—definitely with a different perspective on the subject.Although this topic is more than two years old, it’s still very relevant. As a "newbie" here, I’ve been trying to read through all the sections for days and just ended up here. From my experience with many seminars and workshops, there are often MORE women than men participating, and they also take outstanding photos. When someone here mentions having time constraints, maybe us men should really take a moment to reflect on that! My wife also takes photos and often captures more appealing shots than I do—definitely with a different perspective on the subject.Ist zwar ein mehr als 2 Jahre altes Thema, aber doch immer aktuell. Als "Neuer" hier, versuche ich seit Tagen mich durch alle Bereiche zu lesen und bin jetzt eben hier gelandet. Meine Wahrnehmung bei vielen Seminaren u Workshops ist, dass dort oft MEHR Frauen als Männer teilnehmen und auch hervorragende Bilder machen. Wenn hier das eine od andere mal von einem Zeitproblem geschrieben wird, dann sollten wir Männer vielleicht mal gut drüber nachdenken! Meine Frau fotografiert jedenfalls auch u hat oftmals ansprechendere Fotos als ich, ganz sicher aber einen anderen Blick aufs Motiv.
Hobbyfotograf
I just came across this topic again.
Regarding this: my daughter has what's called a photographic eye.
I try to capture it myself – but it doesn’t always work. (I’m working on it – technique and experience help a lot)
So, there’s no one-size-fits-all answer.
But it’s definitely an interesting subject.I just came across this topic again.
Regarding this: my daughter has what's called a photographic eye.
I try to capture it myself – but it doesn’t always work. (I’m working on it – technique and experience help a lot)
So, there’s no one-size-fits-all answer.
But it’s definitely an interesting subject.bin gerade wieder mal auf dieses Thema gestossen.
Zum Thema: meine Tochter hat das sogenannte Fotografische Auge.
Ich versuche es zu finden - klappt nicht immer. (arbeite daran - Technik und Erfahrungen machen vieles weg)
Man kann dies also nicht allgemein beantworten.
Aber Interessant ist es schon.
Regarding this: my daughter has what's called a photographic eye.
I try to capture it myself – but it doesn’t always work. (I’m working on it – technique and experience help a lot)
So, there’s no one-size-fits-all answer.
But it’s definitely an interesting subject.I just came across this topic again.
Regarding this: my daughter has what's called a photographic eye.
I try to capture it myself – but it doesn’t always work. (I’m working on it – technique and experience help a lot)
So, there’s no one-size-fits-all answer.
But it’s definitely an interesting subject.bin gerade wieder mal auf dieses Thema gestossen.
Zum Thema: meine Tochter hat das sogenannte Fotografische Auge.
Ich versuche es zu finden - klappt nicht immer. (arbeite daran - Technik und Erfahrungen machen vieles weg)
Man kann dies also nicht allgemein beantworten.
Aber Interessant ist es schon.
Of course, men make better photographers. It's like cooking—among the top chefs, you’ll find only a few women.Of course, men make better photographers. It's like cooking—among the top chefs, you’ll find only a few women.Natürlich sind Männer die besseren Photographen. Ist wie mit dem Kochen. Unter den großen Köchen findet man nur recht wenige weibliche Köche.
Hobbyfotograf
@Andreas F OK
Hobbyfotografin
I've always been fascinated by everything related to photography. For many years, I simply didn’t have enough time, so it was mostly just quick snapshots. Now that the kids are grown, work is going well, and I’m finding it easier to really dive deeper into the subject. Photography requires time and space to truly explore.
My thought is this: since there seem to be more male photographers, it’s probably why we see more great photos from them. But women are just as talented, and I’d argue that if you look at photographers and their work proportionally, there’s no difference in quality between men and women.
Oops... I just noticed this topic is already a month old. Oh well.
I've always been fascinated by everything related to photography. For many years, I simply didn’t have enough time, so it was mostly just quick snapshots. Now that the kids are grown, work is going well, and I’m finding it easier to really dive deeper into the subject. Photography requires time and space to truly explore.
My thought is this: since there seem to be more male photographers, it’s probably why we see more great photos from them. But women are just as talented, and I’d argue that if you look at photographers and their work proportionally, there’s no difference in quality between men and women.
Oops... I just noticed this topic is already a month old. Oh well.Mich hat schon immer alles rund ums Fotografieren fasziniert. Viele Jahre hatte ich einfach zu wenig Zeit und es blieb beim schnellen "Knipsen". Jetzt sind die Kids groß, im Job passt alles und ich finde besser den Zugang um tiefer ins Thema einzusteigen. Zum Fotografieren braucht man eben Zeit und Freiraum.
Meine Überlegung: Da es gefühlt mehr männliche Fotografen gibt, sind wohl auch mehr gute Fotos von denen zu sehen. Frauen können es mindestens genauso gut und ich würde meinen, wenn man Fotografen und Fotografinnen und deren Bilder proportional betrachtet, es keinen Unterschied am Besser oder Schlechter gibt.
Upps ... hab gerade gesehen, das Thema ist schon ein Monat her. Egal.
My thought is this: since there seem to be more male photographers, it’s probably why we see more great photos from them. But women are just as talented, and I’d argue that if you look at photographers and their work proportionally, there’s no difference in quality between men and women.
Oops... I just noticed this topic is already a month old. Oh well.
I've always been fascinated by everything related to photography. For many years, I simply didn’t have enough time, so it was mostly just quick snapshots. Now that the kids are grown, work is going well, and I’m finding it easier to really dive deeper into the subject. Photography requires time and space to truly explore. My thought is this: since there seem to be more male photographers, it’s probably why we see more great photos from them. But women are just as talented, and I’d argue that if you look at photographers and their work proportionally, there’s no difference in quality between men and women.
Oops... I just noticed this topic is already a month old. Oh well.
Mich hat schon immer alles rund ums Fotografieren fasziniert. Viele Jahre hatte ich einfach zu wenig Zeit und es blieb beim schnellen "Knipsen". Jetzt sind die Kids groß, im Job passt alles und ich finde besser den Zugang um tiefer ins Thema einzusteigen. Zum Fotografieren braucht man eben Zeit und Freiraum. Meine Überlegung: Da es gefühlt mehr männliche Fotografen gibt, sind wohl auch mehr gute Fotos von denen zu sehen. Frauen können es mindestens genauso gut und ich würde meinen, wenn man Fotografen und Fotografinnen und deren Bilder proportional betrachtet, es keinen Unterschied am Besser oder Schlechter gibt.
Upps ... hab gerade gesehen, das Thema ist schon ein Monat her. Egal.
Hobbyfotograf
Hobbyfotograf
Why should photography be considered a man's domain? Anyone can look through a viewfinder and press the shutter button. What really matters is the outcome. And I don’t see quality differences based on gender—just different preferences for subjects or approaches. Those can vary from person to person and aren’t necessarily tied to gender. Sure, you might find fewer women than men in some places, but the quality doesn’t differ between genders; it varies between photographers. So: everyone interested, pick up a camera, and let the results speak for themselves... what counts is what comes out in the end.Why should photography be considered a man's domain? Anyone can look through a viewfinder and press the shutter button. What really matters is the outcome. And I don’t see quality differences based on gender—just different preferences for subjects or approaches. Those can vary from person to person and aren’t necessarily tied to gender. Sure, you might find fewer women than men in some places, but the quality doesn’t differ between genders; it varies between photographers. So: everyone interested, pick up a camera, and let the results speak for themselves... what counts is what comes out in the end.Warum sollte Fotografieren Männersache sein? Jeder Mensch kann durch einen Sucher schauen und den Auslöser betätigen. Was dabei herauskommt ist doch entscheidend. Und da sehe ich keine Qualitätsunterschiede, sondern vielleicht unterschiedliche Motivvorliegben oder Herangehensweisen. Aber die mögen auch von Person zu Person variieren und nicht geschlechtsspezifisch sein. Man mag hier, wie an anderer Stelle, weniger Frauen als Männer finden, aber die Qualität unterscheidet sich nicht zwischen den Geschlechtern, sondern zwischen den Fotografirenden. Also: alles an die Kameras, was Interesse hat, und dann schaut man sich die Ergebnisse an....entscheidend ist was hinten rauskommt.....
If I understand correctly, the original question was why women take fewer photos (or at least share their photos less often in forums). Are there differences? Between women and men when it comes to photography? And are men better at it? It’s a somewhat odd question and a misinterpretation of the actual issue. There are differences, but they relate to individuals rather than gender, as Andreas S. already pointed out.
So why do women post less? One reason is definitely that they have less time. But there may be other factors as well. From my professional experience, women generally don’t like to showcase themselves as much as men do—even when they are the more skilled experts in their field, they tend to let their male colleagues take the spotlight more often than the other way around. There are certainly additional reasons for this underrepresentation.If I understand correctly, the original question was why women take fewer photos (or at least share their photos less often in forums). Are there differences? Between women and men when it comes to photography? And are men better at it? It’s a somewhat odd question and a misinterpretation of the actual issue. There are differences, but they relate to individuals rather than gender, as Andreas S. already pointed out.
So why do women post less? One reason is definitely that they have less time. But there may be other factors as well. From my professional experience, women generally don’t like to showcase themselves as much as men do—even when they are the more skilled experts in their field, they tend to let their male colleagues take the spotlight more often than the other way around. There are certainly additional reasons for this underrepresentation.Wenn ich es richtig verstehe, war die ursprüngliche Frage, warum Frauen weniger fotografieren (oder zumindest ihre Fotos weniger in den Foren zeigen). Ob es Unterschiede gibt? Zwischen Frauen und Männern in Bezug auf Fotografie? Und ob Männer da besser sind? Eine etwas absurde Frage, und Verdrehung der tatsächlichen Fragestellung. Es gibt Unterschiede, die beziehen sich auf individuelle Personen und nicht auf das Geschlecht, wie schon Andreas S. schreibt.
Warum Frauen jetzt weniger posten? Ein Punkt ist sicher, weil sie weniger Zeit haben. Aber es mag auch andere Gründe geben. Aus meiner Berufserfahrung präsentieren sich Frauen in der Regel nicht so gerne wie Männer, auch wenn sie in ihrem Bereich die besseren 'Fachfrauen' sind, lassen sie den männlichen Kollegen viel eher den Vortritt als es umgekehrt der Fall ist. Es gibt sicher noch weitere Gründe für die Unterpräsentation.
So why do women post less? One reason is definitely that they have less time. But there may be other factors as well. From my professional experience, women generally don’t like to showcase themselves as much as men do—even when they are the more skilled experts in their field, they tend to let their male colleagues take the spotlight more often than the other way around. There are certainly additional reasons for this underrepresentation.If I understand correctly, the original question was why women take fewer photos (or at least share their photos less often in forums). Are there differences? Between women and men when it comes to photography? And are men better at it? It’s a somewhat odd question and a misinterpretation of the actual issue. There are differences, but they relate to individuals rather than gender, as Andreas S. already pointed out.
So why do women post less? One reason is definitely that they have less time. But there may be other factors as well. From my professional experience, women generally don’t like to showcase themselves as much as men do—even when they are the more skilled experts in their field, they tend to let their male colleagues take the spotlight more often than the other way around. There are certainly additional reasons for this underrepresentation.Wenn ich es richtig verstehe, war die ursprüngliche Frage, warum Frauen weniger fotografieren (oder zumindest ihre Fotos weniger in den Foren zeigen). Ob es Unterschiede gibt? Zwischen Frauen und Männern in Bezug auf Fotografie? Und ob Männer da besser sind? Eine etwas absurde Frage, und Verdrehung der tatsächlichen Fragestellung. Es gibt Unterschiede, die beziehen sich auf individuelle Personen und nicht auf das Geschlecht, wie schon Andreas S. schreibt.
Warum Frauen jetzt weniger posten? Ein Punkt ist sicher, weil sie weniger Zeit haben. Aber es mag auch andere Gründe geben. Aus meiner Berufserfahrung präsentieren sich Frauen in der Regel nicht so gerne wie Männer, auch wenn sie in ihrem Bereich die besseren 'Fachfrauen' sind, lassen sie den männlichen Kollegen viel eher den Vortritt als es umgekehrt der Fall ist. Es gibt sicher noch weitere Gründe für die Unterpräsentation.
Hobbyfotografin
Well, there has already been some debate about whether men make better photographers. But as you can clearly see, that’s not really the case.
@Maria: I find the idea that women would let men take the lead quite interesting.Well, there has already been some debate about whether men make better photographers. But as you can clearly see, that’s not really the case.
@Maria: I find the idea that women would let men take the lead quite interesting.Nun, es wurde ja schon hinterfragt, ob Männer die besseren Fotografen sind. Aber wie man gut erkennen kann, ist dies nicht wirklich der Fall.
@Maria: ich finde die Auffassung Frauen würden den Männern den Vortritt lassen, durchaus interessant.
@Maria: I find the idea that women would let men take the lead quite interesting.Well, there has already been some debate about whether men make better photographers. But as you can clearly see, that’s not really the case.
@Maria: I find the idea that women would let men take the lead quite interesting.Nun, es wurde ja schon hinterfragt, ob Männer die besseren Fotografen sind. Aber wie man gut erkennen kann, ist dies nicht wirklich der Fall.
@Maria: ich finde die Auffassung Frauen würden den Männern den Vortritt lassen, durchaus interessant.
Hobbyfotograf
Hobbyfotograf
Whether a woman or a man is better at something really doesn’t matter. What’s important is that the person doing it enjoys it, and that those viewing the photos find joy in them. The stereotype that men don’t listen and women can’t park is just wrong. Just as many girls fall asleep in class as boys do. And my female driving students usually learn to park just as quickly as their male counterparts—although the overall skill level has declined in recent years.
As for why more men are involved in photography than women, it likely comes down to many men’s affinity for technology. Both genders have time for hobbies, after all.
Best, DidiWhether a woman or a man is better at something really doesn’t matter. What’s important is that the person doing it enjoys it, and that those viewing the photos find joy in them. The stereotype that men don’t listen and women can’t park is just wrong. Just as many girls fall asleep in class as boys do. And my female driving students usually learn to park just as quickly as their male counterparts—although the overall skill level has declined in recent years.
As for why more men are involved in photography than women, it likely comes down to many men’s affinity for technology. Both genders have time for hobbies, after all.
Best, DidiAlso, ob eine Frau oder ein Mann etwas besser kann ist doch unwichtig.
Wichtig ist, dass es der Person, die es tut Spaß macht und die Personen die die Bilder betrachten Freude daran haben.
Das Klischee, das Männer nicht zuhören und Frauen nicht einparken können ist doch auch falsch. Im Unterricht schlafen genau so viele Mädels ein wie Jungs. Und meine Fahrschülerinnen lernen meist genau so schnell in die Parklücke zu kommen, wie ihre männlichen Mitstreiter. Wobei das Niveau abgenommen hat in den letzten Jahren.
Warum nun mehr Männer sich mit der Fotografie beschäftigen als Frauen, ist sicher der "Technikafinität" vieler Männer geschuldet. Denn Zeit für Hobbys haben beide Geschlechter ...
LG Didi
As for why more men are involved in photography than women, it likely comes down to many men’s affinity for technology. Both genders have time for hobbies, after all.
Best, DidiWhether a woman or a man is better at something really doesn’t matter. What’s important is that the person doing it enjoys it, and that those viewing the photos find joy in them. The stereotype that men don’t listen and women can’t park is just wrong. Just as many girls fall asleep in class as boys do. And my female driving students usually learn to park just as quickly as their male counterparts—although the overall skill level has declined in recent years.
As for why more men are involved in photography than women, it likely comes down to many men’s affinity for technology. Both genders have time for hobbies, after all.
Best, DidiAlso, ob eine Frau oder ein Mann etwas besser kann ist doch unwichtig.
Wichtig ist, dass es der Person, die es tut Spaß macht und die Personen die die Bilder betrachten Freude daran haben.
Das Klischee, das Männer nicht zuhören und Frauen nicht einparken können ist doch auch falsch. Im Unterricht schlafen genau so viele Mädels ein wie Jungs. Und meine Fahrschülerinnen lernen meist genau so schnell in die Parklücke zu kommen, wie ihre männlichen Mitstreiter. Wobei das Niveau abgenommen hat in den letzten Jahren.
Warum nun mehr Männer sich mit der Fotografie beschäftigen als Frauen, ist sicher der "Technikafinität" vieler Männer geschuldet. Denn Zeit für Hobbys haben beide Geschlechter ...
LG Didi
Hobbyfotografin
@Maria Bürstmayr I've never really thought about it that way before. That's why I find the statement interesting. It's a nice idea and a refreshing perspective.@Maria Bürstmayr I've never really thought about it that way before. That's why I find the statement interesting. It's a nice idea and a refreshing perspective.@Maria Bürstmayr Ich habe es noch nie so in Betracht gezogen. Und deshalb finde ich die Aussage interessant. Es ist ein schöner Gedanke und mal eine andere Sichtweise.
The question Ria asked has been clearly addressed in this thread. If there was a different original question before or if it’s understood differently, that may be the case, but it doesn’t help the communication in this thread.
The claim, "One point is certain because they have less time," is exactly what it is—a claim, likely a very subjective one.
Such a statement might apply to some people but cannot be generalized.
I suspect that one reason for the low number of women in photography is that it tends to be a more technical hobby. From my personal experience, many women aren’t interested in diving into the technical details. You’ll probably see something similar in other hobbies as well. At least, that’s my impression.
It’s probably quite similar with qualified feedback. It’s more about the lack of interest than the actual ability. Anyone can give feedback, even detailed feedback, just as anyone can engage in photography in general. The question Ria asked has been clearly addressed in this thread. If there was a different original question before or if it’s understood differently, that may be the case, but it doesn’t help the communication in this thread.
The claim, "One point is certain because they have less time," is exactly what it is—a claim, likely a very subjective one.
Such a statement might apply to some people but cannot be generalized.
I suspect that one reason for the low number of women in photography is that it tends to be a more technical hobby. From my personal experience, many women aren’t interested in diving into the technical details. You’ll probably see something similar in other hobbies as well. At least, that’s my impression.
It’s probably quite similar with qualified feedback. It’s more about the lack of interest than the actual ability. Anyone can give feedback, even detailed feedback, just as anyone can engage in photography in general. Die Frage die Ria gestellt hatte ist in diesem Thread klar gestellt. Wenn es davor eine andere ursprüngliche Fragestellung gab oder man es anders versteht mag das so sein, jedoch erleichtert es nicht die Kommunikation in diesem Thread.
Die Behauptung, "Ein Punkt ist sicher, weil sie weniger Zeit haben.", Ist das was sie ist. Eine Behauptung vermutlich eine sehr subjektive.
So eine Behauptung mag für einige Personen gelten lässt sich jedoch nicht verallgemeinern.
Ich vermute, dass einer der Gründe für wenig Frauen in der Photographie der ist das es eher ein technisches Hobby ist. Meine persönliche Erfahrung ist, dass viele Frauen kein Interesse haben sich in die technischen Hintergründe reinzufuchsen. Ähnliches wird man auch bei anderen Hobbys Tätigkeiten feststellen. So zumindest mein Eindruck.
Das ist vermutlich ganz ähnlich wie bei den qualifizierten Feedback. Da fehlt eher das Interesse als das tatsächliche können. Feedback, auch ausführlich kann jeder, so wie Photographie grundsätzlich auch.
The claim, "One point is certain because they have less time," is exactly what it is—a claim, likely a very subjective one.
Such a statement might apply to some people but cannot be generalized.
I suspect that one reason for the low number of women in photography is that it tends to be a more technical hobby. From my personal experience, many women aren’t interested in diving into the technical details. You’ll probably see something similar in other hobbies as well. At least, that’s my impression.
It’s probably quite similar with qualified feedback. It’s more about the lack of interest than the actual ability. Anyone can give feedback, even detailed feedback, just as anyone can engage in photography in general. The question Ria asked has been clearly addressed in this thread. If there was a different original question before or if it’s understood differently, that may be the case, but it doesn’t help the communication in this thread.
The claim, "One point is certain because they have less time," is exactly what it is—a claim, likely a very subjective one.
Such a statement might apply to some people but cannot be generalized.
I suspect that one reason for the low number of women in photography is that it tends to be a more technical hobby. From my personal experience, many women aren’t interested in diving into the technical details. You’ll probably see something similar in other hobbies as well. At least, that’s my impression.
It’s probably quite similar with qualified feedback. It’s more about the lack of interest than the actual ability. Anyone can give feedback, even detailed feedback, just as anyone can engage in photography in general. Die Frage die Ria gestellt hatte ist in diesem Thread klar gestellt. Wenn es davor eine andere ursprüngliche Fragestellung gab oder man es anders versteht mag das so sein, jedoch erleichtert es nicht die Kommunikation in diesem Thread.
Die Behauptung, "Ein Punkt ist sicher, weil sie weniger Zeit haben.", Ist das was sie ist. Eine Behauptung vermutlich eine sehr subjektive.
So eine Behauptung mag für einige Personen gelten lässt sich jedoch nicht verallgemeinern.
Ich vermute, dass einer der Gründe für wenig Frauen in der Photographie der ist das es eher ein technisches Hobby ist. Meine persönliche Erfahrung ist, dass viele Frauen kein Interesse haben sich in die technischen Hintergründe reinzufuchsen. Ähnliches wird man auch bei anderen Hobbys Tätigkeiten feststellen. So zumindest mein Eindruck.
Das ist vermutlich ganz ähnlich wie bei den qualifizierten Feedback. Da fehlt eher das Interesse als das tatsächliche können. Feedback, auch ausführlich kann jeder, so wie Photographie grundsätzlich auch.
@Andreas F
An average, of course, doesn’t apply to every individual. A working woman with children likely has very little free time, and if she’s a single parent, both time and money become even tighter. This combination tends to affect women more than men. How much of this is just my personal perception? Well, that’s open to interpretation.
I’ve only recently developed an interest in photography. I find the technical demands quite manageable. Of course, you need to understand the exposure triangle. It also helps to have read the camera’s manual, at least the key parts. Experimenting, taking photos, and playing around with the camera is easier today than it was back in the film days. But the technical side is far from everything.@Andreas F
An average, of course, doesn’t apply to every individual. A working woman with children likely has very little free time, and if she’s a single parent, both time and money become even tighter. This combination tends to affect women more than men. How much of this is just my personal perception? Well, that’s open to interpretation.
I’ve only recently developed an interest in photography. I find the technical demands quite manageable. Of course, you need to understand the exposure triangle. It also helps to have read the camera’s manual, at least the key parts. Experimenting, taking photos, and playing around with the camera is easier today than it was back in the film days. But the technical side is far from everything.@Andreas F
Ein Durchschnitt gilt natürlich nicht für die Einzelperson. Ein berufstätige Frau mit Kindern hat sicher wenig Freizeit, und wenn Alleinerziehend auch noch dazukommt wird Zeit und auch Geld eng. Diese Kombi betrifft nun eher Frauen als Männer. Wie weit das nun mein subjektives Empfinden ist - okay, kann man ja so sehen.
Ich interessiere mich erst seit sehr kurzer Zeit für Fotografie. Ich finde die technischen Anforderungen halten sich in Grenzen. Natürlich muss man das Exposerdreieck verstehen. Und es ist gut, wenn man das Handbuch der Kamera gelesen hat, zumindest die wichtigsten Punkte davon. Viel ausprobieren, fotografieren, mit der Kamera spielen geht heute leichter als zur analogen Zeit. Aber die technischen Seite ist bei weitem nicht alles.
An average, of course, doesn’t apply to every individual. A working woman with children likely has very little free time, and if she’s a single parent, both time and money become even tighter. This combination tends to affect women more than men. How much of this is just my personal perception? Well, that’s open to interpretation.
I’ve only recently developed an interest in photography. I find the technical demands quite manageable. Of course, you need to understand the exposure triangle. It also helps to have read the camera’s manual, at least the key parts. Experimenting, taking photos, and playing around with the camera is easier today than it was back in the film days. But the technical side is far from everything.@Andreas F
An average, of course, doesn’t apply to every individual. A working woman with children likely has very little free time, and if she’s a single parent, both time and money become even tighter. This combination tends to affect women more than men. How much of this is just my personal perception? Well, that’s open to interpretation.
I’ve only recently developed an interest in photography. I find the technical demands quite manageable. Of course, you need to understand the exposure triangle. It also helps to have read the camera’s manual, at least the key parts. Experimenting, taking photos, and playing around with the camera is easier today than it was back in the film days. But the technical side is far from everything.@Andreas F
Ein Durchschnitt gilt natürlich nicht für die Einzelperson. Ein berufstätige Frau mit Kindern hat sicher wenig Freizeit, und wenn Alleinerziehend auch noch dazukommt wird Zeit und auch Geld eng. Diese Kombi betrifft nun eher Frauen als Männer. Wie weit das nun mein subjektives Empfinden ist - okay, kann man ja so sehen.
Ich interessiere mich erst seit sehr kurzer Zeit für Fotografie. Ich finde die technischen Anforderungen halten sich in Grenzen. Natürlich muss man das Exposerdreieck verstehen. Und es ist gut, wenn man das Handbuch der Kamera gelesen hat, zumindest die wichtigsten Punkte davon. Viel ausprobieren, fotografieren, mit der Kamera spielen geht heute leichter als zur analogen Zeit. Aber die technischen Seite ist bei weitem nicht alles.
I agree with you that the technical side isn't everything. However, it is one aspect. It's not that my wife doesn't see any subjects to photograph—quite the opposite. But the interest in exploring what possibilities the camera and lens offer, and how shutter speed and aperture relate, is already too much for her. What comes easily to you can be difficult and often uninteresting to someone else. That's why broad generalizations like these aren't reliable.
Just as the idea that working women with children have less time and money compared to men, as you mentioned, isn't necessarily accurate.
As a counterpoint: married women with children often have a lot of time since they are usually not employed full-time. Many women also tend to work part-time, which is less common among men.I agree with you that the technical side isn't everything. However, it is one aspect. It's not that my wife doesn't see any subjects to photograph—quite the opposite. But the interest in exploring what possibilities the camera and lens offer, and how shutter speed and aperture relate, is already too much for her. What comes easily to you can be difficult and often uninteresting to someone else. That's why broad generalizations like these aren't reliable.
Just as the idea that working women with children have less time and money compared to men, as you mentioned, isn't necessarily accurate.
As a counterpoint: married women with children often have a lot of time since they are usually not employed full-time. Many women also tend to work part-time, which is less common among men.Das die technische Seite nicht Alles ist da gehe ich mit Dir Darcord. Es ist aber ein Aspekt. Es ist nicht so das meine Frau keine Motive sieht, ganz im Gegenteil. Das Interesse welche Möglichkeiten sich mit der Kamera und Objektiv bieten und wie Zeit und Blende zusammen hängen ist ihr jedoch schon zuviel. Was für Dich ein leichtes ist für jemanden anderes schwierig und oftmals uninteressant. Daher sind solche pauschalen Aussagen auch nicht belastbar.
Ebensowenig wie das eine berufstätige Frau mit Kindern wenig Zeit und Geld hat, wie von Dir geschrieben, im Vergleich mit Männern.
Als Gegenthese: Verheiratete Frauen mit Kindern haben sehr viel Zeit da sie meist nicht Berufstätig sind. Viele Frauen arbeiten auch eher Teilzeit, was Männer ja weniger betrifft.
Just as the idea that working women with children have less time and money compared to men, as you mentioned, isn't necessarily accurate.
As a counterpoint: married women with children often have a lot of time since they are usually not employed full-time. Many women also tend to work part-time, which is less common among men.I agree with you that the technical side isn't everything. However, it is one aspect. It's not that my wife doesn't see any subjects to photograph—quite the opposite. But the interest in exploring what possibilities the camera and lens offer, and how shutter speed and aperture relate, is already too much for her. What comes easily to you can be difficult and often uninteresting to someone else. That's why broad generalizations like these aren't reliable.
Just as the idea that working women with children have less time and money compared to men, as you mentioned, isn't necessarily accurate.
As a counterpoint: married women with children often have a lot of time since they are usually not employed full-time. Many women also tend to work part-time, which is less common among men.Das die technische Seite nicht Alles ist da gehe ich mit Dir Darcord. Es ist aber ein Aspekt. Es ist nicht so das meine Frau keine Motive sieht, ganz im Gegenteil. Das Interesse welche Möglichkeiten sich mit der Kamera und Objektiv bieten und wie Zeit und Blende zusammen hängen ist ihr jedoch schon zuviel. Was für Dich ein leichtes ist für jemanden anderes schwierig und oftmals uninteressant. Daher sind solche pauschalen Aussagen auch nicht belastbar.
Ebensowenig wie das eine berufstätige Frau mit Kindern wenig Zeit und Geld hat, wie von Dir geschrieben, im Vergleich mit Männern.
Als Gegenthese: Verheiratete Frauen mit Kindern haben sehr viel Zeit da sie meist nicht Berufstätig sind. Viele Frauen arbeiten auch eher Teilzeit, was Männer ja weniger betrifft.
@Andreas F
What does understanding the exposure triangle have to do with making a blanket statement? And do you think men are more likely to understand this connection?
Many women work part-time because they take care of their families or provide care for relatives. Of course, there are exceptions. Do you know many men who work part-time to care for their families or relatives? And nowadays, married women are also employed—again, with exceptions. I’m not trying to make any sweeping generalizations here.@Andreas F
What does understanding the exposure triangle have to do with making a blanket statement? And do you think men are more likely to understand this connection?
Many women work part-time because they take care of their families or provide care for relatives. Of course, there are exceptions. Do you know many men who work part-time to care for their families or relatives? And nowadays, married women are also employed—again, with exceptions. I’m not trying to make any sweeping generalizations here.@Andreas F
Was hat das Verstehen eines Exposerdreiecks mit einer Pauschalaussage zu tun? Und denkst du dass Männer diesen Zusammenhang eher verstehen?
Viele Frauen sind in Teilzeit, weil sie sich um die Familie kümmern, oder Pflegedienste an Angehörigen ausüben. Natürlich gibt es Ausnahmen. Kennst du viele Männer die Teilzeit nehmen um sich um ihre Familie oder Angehörigen zu kümmern? Und verheiratete Frauen sind heutzutage berufstätig, auch da gibt es Ausnahmen. Ich möchte hier keine Pauschalaussagen machen.
What does understanding the exposure triangle have to do with making a blanket statement? And do you think men are more likely to understand this connection?
Many women work part-time because they take care of their families or provide care for relatives. Of course, there are exceptions. Do you know many men who work part-time to care for their families or relatives? And nowadays, married women are also employed—again, with exceptions. I’m not trying to make any sweeping generalizations here.@Andreas F
What does understanding the exposure triangle have to do with making a blanket statement? And do you think men are more likely to understand this connection?
Many women work part-time because they take care of their families or provide care for relatives. Of course, there are exceptions. Do you know many men who work part-time to care for their families or relatives? And nowadays, married women are also employed—again, with exceptions. I’m not trying to make any sweeping generalizations here.@Andreas F
Was hat das Verstehen eines Exposerdreiecks mit einer Pauschalaussage zu tun? Und denkst du dass Männer diesen Zusammenhang eher verstehen?
Viele Frauen sind in Teilzeit, weil sie sich um die Familie kümmern, oder Pflegedienste an Angehörigen ausüben. Natürlich gibt es Ausnahmen. Kennst du viele Männer die Teilzeit nehmen um sich um ihre Familie oder Angehörigen zu kümmern? Und verheiratete Frauen sind heutzutage berufstätig, auch da gibt es Ausnahmen. Ich möchte hier keine Pauschalaussagen machen.
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@andreas F
Reading what this so-called expert calls his opinion, you can’t help but shake your head.
He’s definitely not part of the elite group of photo guys
as most of his pictures clearly show.@andreas F
Reading what this so-called expert calls his opinion, you can’t help but shake your head.
He’s definitely not part of the elite group of photo guys as most of his pictures clearly show.@andreas F
wenn man so ließt was dieser speudoexperte so als seine meinung in worte faßt kann man nur mit dem kopf schütteln.
er gehört allerdings nicht zur überlegenen foto-männerriege wie die meisten seiner bilder beweisen es
Reading what this so-called expert calls his opinion, you can’t help but shake your head.
He’s definitely not part of the elite group of photo guys
as most of his pictures clearly show.@andreas FReading what this so-called expert calls his opinion, you can’t help but shake your head.
He’s definitely not part of the elite group of photo guys
as most of his pictures clearly show.@andreas Fwenn man so ließt was dieser speudoexperte so als seine meinung in worte faßt kann man nur mit dem kopf schütteln.
er gehört allerdings nicht zur überlegenen foto-männerriege
wie die meisten seiner bilder beweisen es
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