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I play 29.02.2024, 18:06 #1

artificial intelligence

Hey everyone, are any of you AI experts? Can you tell if a photo was generated by AI or taken with a camera? There are a lot of people who don’t realize that this technique, while fascinating, isn’t really photography. Let’s call it graphics, prompt engineering, or computer science—but I don’t think mastering this technique has much to do with being a skilled photographer. That said, the results can be truly impressive at times, and the temptation to get clever can lead people astray...
 


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Ulf Simon 29.02.2024, 20:54 #2
I don’t agree. Photography is just one technique within the fine arts, and AI-generated images are another. What truly matters is the concept behind the image and how that concept is brought to life visually. The technique itself is completely irrelevant.
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I play 29.02.2024, 21:57 #3
 


You might be right, but what we actually think doesn’t matter much. What’s important is that anyone using a technique openly admits it, without any issues and without pretending that something automatic is the result of their skill. Otherwise, they’re just playing dirty.


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Ulf Simon 29.02.2024, 22:22 #4
...most of those slightly hairy primates are playing dirty😉
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Leo Rothner 02.03.2024, 10:46 #5
I don’t agree with this statement. If AI tools are meant to generate images based on prompts that I actually need for a specific purpose, it’s crucial to also specify the composition of the image and the photographic techniques to be used. Yes, these qualities are what make a good photographer as well.
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I play 02.03.2024, 10:59 #6
There’s a lot to unpack here. I can tell you from my experience as a beginner that when you try AI, if you don’t specify anything about the composition, the machine automatically generates it based on its training. However, I’m not an expert on this topic. What I have noticed (though not here) is that on social media, AI-generated images are often blatantly presented as original photos.
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Leo Rothner 02.03.2024, 11:11 #7
Here in the club, there’s a category called "DigiArt." Maybe this category could also be used to discuss AI-generated images and the prompts behind them. Alternatively, Toni could create a dedicated subcategory just for AI. I agree with you—either way, the authorship should credit both the person who created the prompt and the AI.
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I play 02.03.2024, 12:13 #8
Yes, it would be helpful to specify the engine used and share the prompt. One thing I didn’t quite get is the order in which you should give the prompt—sometimes many of the details I include get ignored :D. I’m getting off-topic, but this is really fascinating. As you might have guessed, I’m not against AI at all; I just see it as something different from the photos I take myself.
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Leo Rothner 02.03.2024, 13:43 #9
An AI-generated image isn’t a real photograph in the traditional sense of capturing light.
The sequence and specific prompts used often come as a surprise. I’ve also had results where certain prompts were completely ignored. As for the order, I suspect that the words placed first carry more weight.
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I play 03.03.2024, 12:48 #10
Yes, I also believe that the order matters, and there are parameters that influence how much a part of the prompt is taken into account. But it’s really challenging because, as a user, it’s a black box... yet it’s incredibly fascinating. :D I’d love to learn more. There are definitely “legitimate” uses when the image is clearly imaginary. To give a silly example: I’ll never be able to photograph an elephant balancing on a wire. In that sense, I think it would be fun to explore fantasies that can’t be realized in real life.
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Romano Engler 27.06.2024, 00:26 #11
Creating images with AI assistance is definitely fascinating — I just don’t buy into all the hype. I intentionally use the word “image” instead of “photo” because there’s a difference. You can create an image in many ways, like painting, and there are countless creative methods to bring your vision to life. To me, the real issue arises when someone tries to pass off a photorealistic image as an actual photograph. Usually, these images are fairly easy to spot, but that’s likely to get harder as technology advances. Photography itself covers a broad range of styles, from more artistic shots to documentary-style work. Maybe I’m a bit old-fashioned, but I believe the perspective, message, story, and especially the emotions conveyed to the viewer are what truly matter — and that’s not necessarily about technical skill. AI-generated images usually don’t achieve that for me, at least not yet.

That said, it’s important to stay open to new things, and experimenting can be a lot of fun. Knowing how to create AI images is definitely a useful skill, especially given the possibilities. In my view, as with many things in life, it all comes down to how you approach it.
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